Per the same article: Whisper Systems was acquired, but the founder of Signal left Twitter and founded Open Whisper Systems as a collaborative Open Source project that continued to develop RedPhone and TextSecure, the two encrypted communication apps that were merged in 2015 to become Signal for Android (followed later by Signal for IOS). Signal is now developed by Signal Messenger LLC, a software company wholly owned by a tax-exempt nonprofit corporation called the Signal Technology Foundation, also created by them in 2018.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks to me like Musk and Twitter/X have no financial connection to Signal.
I think I also heard them on one of the training videos talking about how to keep your information secret and not send it over Email, not to keep any evidence basically!
Can we be honest and admit that the primary use of the Signal App is for illegal shit... thats what I use it for. That's what anyone I've ever met that is on it uses it for...
Illegal shit.
Another thing that makes me wonder a bit. One of the participants was in Moscow at the time of the event.... its already known that Moscow has cracked Signal....
I wonder if Jeff Goldberg wasn't added to the conversation by accident but that his contact was added by a third party outside of the conversation ( talmbout Russia here)
Though I have absolutely zero doubts that this illegal Fascist administration uses Signal for “illegal shit,” as you put it, not everyone does. I recently started using it for basic, everyday texts when it became clear that we are no longer afforded privacy or free speech in this country.
It enrages me that repugs have gotten away with their corruption for years by using the “shiny object “ defense. It’s always deflect, gaslight, pointing fingers, “what about “ BS. Call them out daily! Do not let these people and their unconstitutional, illegal and corrupt practices escape into the memory hole of time. The MSM won’t care or help us, nor the republicans. They are complicit in destroying government because they can’t get rich enough when there is a functioning democracy. Nobody should be supporting the LA Times, WaPo, Xitter or any right leaning media. These fascist loons in power are destroying our democracy and doing it with fervor. A part of me will never forgive the voters who support or voted for that rapey felon, even though I know some family members did vote for him for various reasons. But rationalizing reasons such as the economy and/or not voting for a female POC is not explanation in my book for approval of a criminal rapey mob boss as the leader of the soon to be “unfree” US of A.
I have worked in security for a long. I have said no. I have raised flags. If I’d been confronted with this demand to install on gov systems, and been terrified at the same time, knowing our threat is literally inside the admin, I hope I would have done anything to find another way - like anonymously leak to the public that that request was being made in Feb. But starting even earlier, like In Jan, I’d try to fake as many mistakes as I could to slow them down - like pw lock after 1 failed attempt. Or screen lock after 1 min idle. Or misspelled their names when setting up accounts. Or faking network outages. Or literally anything I could think of. And rallying as many in network/infra/security across departments and agencies to do the same. I’d have been fired, but I’d feel I was doing my job. That said, Jeff Goldberg should be viewed as a godsend. I hope people wise up to the reality that we’re under attack by this regime.
Yeah, Goldberg is the hero of this story. Imagine that, a newspaper editor takes national security more seriously than the people in charge of national security.
Well... they just did what Putin told them to do, no? I guess he could spy with a lot of sophisticated means, but why complicate things? It saves everyone a lot of time.
On one of Goldberg’s screenshots that he shared today, it showed where Waltz added Goldberg to the chat, but it also showed MAR adding MAR to the chat. 🤔
Nobody in this regime is qualified to be in their positions. They should all be brought up on treason charges for going against our constitution, which they swore loyalty to in their oath.
After reading up on her, I think she fits right in. She was the perfect person at the perfect place to set it all up. WOW!
I wish people would are just pay attention to what's going on. It's so obvious if they would just open their eyes and ears. There's still so many that haven't got a clue as to any of it.
This is a very interesting feed. While the press is reporting almost solely on the Signal chat and calling for resignations, they are not addressing why they are on Signal even after they were told not to use it. The thought that there will be no record anywhere of what anyone in trump's administration has done, or will do the next few years, terrifies me. It should be the bigger news than the one time they were caught.
Well many of these jobs you can fake it til you make it. But a CISO cannot do that anywhere. It's no surprise this happened quickly. The surprise is that no one seems to give a damn, including Democrats, about the underlying reasons for why the Houthi Chat Mess happened.
I spent alot of time in those kinds of spaces. I cannot imagine the smart, competent colleagues i had doing these kinds if shenanigans. Its abhorrent. More so the possibility that Witkiff
Of course they did. It's written in Project 2025 to do so.
Here's the reference https://accountable.us/project-2025s-recipe-for-success-hide-agenda-avoid-paper-trails-create-secret-plans/
Not to mention the extra profit for the top DOGE himself:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software)
"In November 2011, Whisper Systems announced that it had been acquired by Twitter."
Per the same article: Whisper Systems was acquired, but the founder of Signal left Twitter and founded Open Whisper Systems as a collaborative Open Source project that continued to develop RedPhone and TextSecure, the two encrypted communication apps that were merged in 2015 to become Signal for Android (followed later by Signal for IOS). Signal is now developed by Signal Messenger LLC, a software company wholly owned by a tax-exempt nonprofit corporation called the Signal Technology Foundation, also created by them in 2018.
Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks to me like Musk and Twitter/X have no financial connection to Signal.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-discloses-funding-whatsapp-111005209.html
WhatsApp is not Signal.
"Elon Musk Discloses Funding WhatsApp >Rival Signal<"
Yes, I read the same thing.
Exactly!
I think I also heard them on one of the training videos talking about how to keep your information secret and not send it over Email, not to keep any evidence basically!
It’s because it’s a coup!
Can we be honest and admit that the primary use of the Signal App is for illegal shit... thats what I use it for. That's what anyone I've ever met that is on it uses it for...
Illegal shit.
Another thing that makes me wonder a bit. One of the participants was in Moscow at the time of the event.... its already known that Moscow has cracked Signal....
I wonder if Jeff Goldberg wasn't added to the conversation by accident but that his contact was added by a third party outside of the conversation ( talmbout Russia here)
By these people, illegal use, because of records requirements.
But in general, no. Privacy conscious people, reporters, attorney-client, etc...
Why do their magasplaining for them with that "third party" shit? Waltz said he did it.
And Russia? Why would they shoot their own assets and useful idiots? When those fucks seem to be working for them?
Magasplaining! Exactly
Love your user name!
Pus Bucket was already taken
Many people now use signal for person texts with friends and family. Paranoia runs deep in these times. I use it.
Though I have absolutely zero doubts that this illegal Fascist administration uses Signal for “illegal shit,” as you put it, not everyone does. I recently started using it for basic, everyday texts when it became clear that we are no longer afforded privacy or free speech in this country.
They didn't have to crack Signal. Whatever intel they want they can get directly from King Krasnov. That's what they pay him for.
Also, if they want to "crack" Signal, they wouldn't have to work too hard. Leon Muskovite would surely provide them with a backdoor:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software): "In November 2011, Whisper Systems announced that it had been acquired by Twitter."
As a patsy, in case the fhit hit the shan. Plausible.
It enrages me that repugs have gotten away with their corruption for years by using the “shiny object “ defense. It’s always deflect, gaslight, pointing fingers, “what about “ BS. Call them out daily! Do not let these people and their unconstitutional, illegal and corrupt practices escape into the memory hole of time. The MSM won’t care or help us, nor the republicans. They are complicit in destroying government because they can’t get rich enough when there is a functioning democracy. Nobody should be supporting the LA Times, WaPo, Xitter or any right leaning media. These fascist loons in power are destroying our democracy and doing it with fervor. A part of me will never forgive the voters who support or voted for that rapey felon, even though I know some family members did vote for him for various reasons. But rationalizing reasons such as the economy and/or not voting for a female POC is not explanation in my book for approval of a criminal rapey mob boss as the leader of the soon to be “unfree” US of A.
They've perfected newspeak. No doubt Josef Goebbels would be proud.
And George Orwell saying, "I told you so!"
I have worked in security for a long. I have said no. I have raised flags. If I’d been confronted with this demand to install on gov systems, and been terrified at the same time, knowing our threat is literally inside the admin, I hope I would have done anything to find another way - like anonymously leak to the public that that request was being made in Feb. But starting even earlier, like In Jan, I’d try to fake as many mistakes as I could to slow them down - like pw lock after 1 failed attempt. Or screen lock after 1 min idle. Or misspelled their names when setting up accounts. Or faking network outages. Or literally anything I could think of. And rallying as many in network/infra/security across departments and agencies to do the same. I’d have been fired, but I’d feel I was doing my job. That said, Jeff Goldberg should be viewed as a godsend. I hope people wise up to the reality that we’re under attack by this regime.
Yeah, Goldberg is the hero of this story. Imagine that, a newspaper editor takes national security more seriously than the people in charge of national security.
Houston, we uh, have a problem.
And didn't hold on to it to reveal in a book a few years later....
A tale of two Goldbergs.
Do they REALLY think we’re that stupid!? They all need to be fired from the top on down!
It's not that they think >we're< that stupid, so much as it is that >they< are that stupid.
Well... they just did what Putin told them to do, no? I guess he could spy with a lot of sophisticated means, but why complicate things? It saves everyone a lot of time.
Goldberg is the only honest and reliable actor in this story? Why am I not surprised.
On one of Goldberg’s screenshots that he shared today, it showed where Waltz added Goldberg to the chat, but it also showed MAR adding MAR to the chat. 🤔
Yes because MAR was probably adding his personal device to the chat.
I spent 35 years working in Silicon Valley doing marketing, sales and Business Dev for large, small, and tiny network and security systems companies.
Katie Arrington has no business being Chief Information Security Officer for any company, much less the Defense Department.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Arrington
Nobody in this regime is qualified to be in their positions. They should all be brought up on treason charges for going against our constitution, which they swore loyalty to in their oath.
After reading up on her, I think she fits right in. She was the perfect person at the perfect place to set it all up. WOW!
I wish people would are just pay attention to what's going on. It's so obvious if they would just open their eyes and ears. There's still so many that haven't got a clue as to any of it.
This is a very interesting feed. While the press is reporting almost solely on the Signal chat and calling for resignations, they are not addressing why they are on Signal even after they were told not to use it. The thought that there will be no record anywhere of what anyone in trump's administration has done, or will do the next few years, terrifies me. It should be the bigger news than the one time they were caught.
Well many of these jobs you can fake it til you make it. But a CISO cannot do that anywhere. It's no surprise this happened quickly. The surprise is that no one seems to give a damn, including Democrats, about the underlying reasons for why the Houthi Chat Mess happened.
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Excellent reporting and analysis. Thanks, and keep up the good work. I will link and promote in my Substack newsletter tonight.
This clearly says two things- one- they don't want to be caught, and 2, if they don't want to be caught, they know that they're doing something wrong.
Project 2025 writes leave no paper trail. Nothing that can be FOIA. Move fast no paper trail.
I spent alot of time in those kinds of spaces. I cannot imagine the smart, competent colleagues i had doing these kinds if shenanigans. Its abhorrent. More so the possibility that Witkiff
No one should be surprised. All the "cool" Insurrectionists were using Signal for Jan 6. Smdh
I thought the law was that the government has to keep a record of everything that they do. Signal can be set to delete.
And there it is.
You're correct, but the current regime doesn't give a damn about legality, democracy, or the constitution.