I’m not sleepwalking into anything, I KNOW they’re serious. They’ve already shown us they are serious. MULTIPLE times. Honestly it’s not me or other voters that need to be taking this serious, it’s law enforcement. It’s the FBI, the Secret Service, Homeland Security & multiple other agencies. And not only within their agencies, they need to ramp up public warnings & their visual presence! It’s insane that we’ve come to this place in time but here we are. The punishments for the J6 participants have been laughable & mostly directed at pawns. Not one person in power, not one person who is ACTUALLY responsible for J6 has been indicted let alone tried & convicted. Oh we are in for a wild & dangerous ride that’s for certain. And that’s no matter what the outcome of this Nov election is.
Hope that the FBI has infiltrated the usual suspects. Hope they catch all the creeps that threaten you.
So far, DOJ has not enforced 18 USC §2385. Advocating overthrow of Government:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
Thank you for tackling this issue. I'm in Texas and Abbott and his cronies are completely unhinged. What scares me is Abbott thumbed his nose at the DOJ and nothing was done about it. The barbed wire is still up. The DOJ is also ignoring both Abbott's and DeSantis's human trafficking. Nobody is stopping them. Why the fuck not???
I've been saying "We're gonna fight" since 2017 and the two indicators that matter are not improving. As explored in detail in Barbara F. Walter's How Civil Wars Start, we are in a state of anocracy, the space between democracy and dictatorship, and we are factionalized to the point we no longer mix. When someone you've known since kindergarten is terminally ill and they won't take that final call from you over politics ...
This year's election is a civil war referendum - are we going to have the rule of law facing down religious fanatics in red states? Or will we have Catholic Shariah as the law of the land and our currently economically vibrant urban areas in flames? There is no third option.
I spent my entire young adult life in the Army. My expectation was that I would be able to retire in peace. I watched in anger on January 6th as the mob stormed our seat of power. I was once and still can be a leader of men in combat. I want to assure everyone that there are a whole lot of very capable veterans sitting in silence, watching this all unfold, painfully. If our peace is shattered by extremists trying to hold onto a seat of power it will not go well for any would be terrorists a second time. Unfortunately it will still destroy democracy. There is no stopping it now. Just look at history.
ANOTHER fascinating & informative guest; great show. Than you, Fred, for all you do. Magats are showing us who they are; they’re shoving it in our faces & down our throats. & we’d better believe their promises for retribution.
I’m not sleepwalking into anything, I KNOW they’re serious. They’ve already shown us they are serious. MULTIPLE times. Honestly it’s not me or other voters that need to be taking this serious, it’s law enforcement. It’s the FBI, the Secret Service, Homeland Security & multiple other agencies. And not only within their agencies, they need to ramp up public warnings & their visual presence! It’s insane that we’ve come to this place in time but here we are. The punishments for the J6 participants have been laughable & mostly directed at pawns. Not one person in power, not one person who is ACTUALLY responsible for J6 has been indicted let alone tried & convicted. Oh we are in for a wild & dangerous ride that’s for certain. And that’s no matter what the outcome of this Nov election is.
Hope that the FBI has infiltrated the usual suspects. Hope they catch all the creeps that threaten you.
So far, DOJ has not enforced 18 USC §2385. Advocating overthrow of Government:
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.
Thank you for tackling this issue. I'm in Texas and Abbott and his cronies are completely unhinged. What scares me is Abbott thumbed his nose at the DOJ and nothing was done about it. The barbed wire is still up. The DOJ is also ignoring both Abbott's and DeSantis's human trafficking. Nobody is stopping them. Why the fuck not???
I've been saying "We're gonna fight" since 2017 and the two indicators that matter are not improving. As explored in detail in Barbara F. Walter's How Civil Wars Start, we are in a state of anocracy, the space between democracy and dictatorship, and we are factionalized to the point we no longer mix. When someone you've known since kindergarten is terminally ill and they won't take that final call from you over politics ...
This year's election is a civil war referendum - are we going to have the rule of law facing down religious fanatics in red states? Or will we have Catholic Shariah as the law of the land and our currently economically vibrant urban areas in flames? There is no third option.
I spent my entire young adult life in the Army. My expectation was that I would be able to retire in peace. I watched in anger on January 6th as the mob stormed our seat of power. I was once and still can be a leader of men in combat. I want to assure everyone that there are a whole lot of very capable veterans sitting in silence, watching this all unfold, painfully. If our peace is shattered by extremists trying to hold onto a seat of power it will not go well for any would be terrorists a second time. Unfortunately it will still destroy democracy. There is no stopping it now. Just look at history.
ANOTHER fascinating & informative guest; great show. Than you, Fred, for all you do. Magats are showing us who they are; they’re shoving it in our faces & down our throats. & we’d better believe their promises for retribution.
#RoevemberIsComing 2024.
..they are so peaceful as NAZIS can be